Comments on: How The Cap And Trade Bill Affects Real Estate http://www.manausa.com/cap-and-trade-bill/ All About Tallahassee Housing Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:22:09 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alain Saffel http://www.manausa.com/cap-and-trade-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-34915 Alain Saffel Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:19:56 +0000 http://www.manausa.com/?p=7039#comment-34915 Bill, I wonder, did you get your talking points from FOX? Let's be clear: no political or economic system is perfect, and we've had a pretty good example of the failings of virtually unregulated capitalism. Government should be there to provide a counterbalance and to regulate. Not suffocate. Regulate. I am pro-business, but more accurately, pro-honest and responsible business. I find it ironic that you talk about statists working for their friends. That's exactly what Bush/Cheney were doing when they cut taxes, took a $250 billion surplus to a trillion dollar deficit and doubled your debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion. These guys professed to be capitalists, but the evidence proves otherwise. Government, in this case, can contribute by giving incentives for energy efficiency and alternative energy (you don't think the petroleum industry isn't already subsidized? Not like they need them). It can actually mandate real reductions in GHGs instead of cap & trade. If building codes are going to be changed, there should be work on energy efficiency, but also to increase minimum code standards in other areas. This could also be viewed as consumer protection from shoddily built houses. In some cases energy efficiency is the least of a new homeowner's worries. Bill, I wonder, did you get your talking points from FOX? Let’s be clear: no political or economic system is perfect, and we’ve had a pretty good example of the failings of virtually unregulated capitalism. Government should be there to provide a counterbalance and to regulate. Not suffocate. Regulate. I am pro-business, but more accurately, pro-honest and responsible business.

I find it ironic that you talk about statists working for their friends. That’s exactly what Bush/Cheney were doing when they cut taxes, took a $250 billion surplus to a trillion dollar deficit and doubled your debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion. These guys professed to be capitalists, but the evidence proves otherwise.

Government, in this case, can contribute by giving incentives for energy efficiency and alternative energy (you don’t think the petroleum industry isn’t already subsidized? Not like they need them). It can actually mandate real reductions in GHGs instead of cap & trade.

If building codes are going to be changed, there should be work on energy efficiency, but also to increase minimum code standards in other areas. This could also be viewed as consumer protection from shoddily built houses. In some cases energy efficiency is the least of a new homeowner’s worries.

]]> By: Martin http://www.manausa.com/cap-and-trade-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-34364 Martin Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:47:49 +0000 http://www.manausa.com/?p=7039#comment-34364 Rick you speak like someone who has never built a home or created anything of value. You have opinions but no knowledge of what it takes to create a structure, deal with local authorities who care more about their power than whether you are building a quality product. There are many craftsman who design homes for living and focus on the needs and desires of their client. Yet you throw all builders together. Your intolerant ignorant attitude speaks volumes about your lack thoughtful consideration of reality. You speak of wasteful spending but don't consider that many people do not want to pay for green building or even efficient building. When you grow up you may discover that consumers will only pay for what they can afford or in the case of green building what they value. The homes I build are green because that is the way I design, I hate waste but it actually costs me money/profit to build them. Most of the people who look at my homes do not want the high maintenance that green components require. They are willing to pay more money for less efficient systems that do not require their personal time. You need to understand that the consumer drives the building business not the other way around. When you get off from your government job, post office, you obviously are definitely not working in the real world do a little reading about economics or better yet do something productive beyond moving your mouth about things you know nothing about. Rick you speak like someone who has never built a home or created anything of value. You have opinions but no knowledge of what it takes to create a structure, deal with local authorities who care more about their power than whether you are building a quality product. There are many craftsman who design homes for living and focus on the needs and desires of their client. Yet you throw all builders together. Your intolerant ignorant attitude speaks volumes about your lack thoughtful consideration of reality. You speak of wasteful spending but don’t consider that many people do not want to pay for green building or even efficient building. When you grow up you may discover that consumers will only pay for what they can afford or in the case of green building what they value. The homes I build are green because that is the way I design, I hate waste but it actually costs me money/profit to build them. Most of the people who look at my homes do not want the high maintenance that green components require. They are willing to pay more money for less efficient systems that do not require their personal time. You need to understand that the consumer drives the building business not the other way around. When you get off from your government job, post office, you obviously are definitely not working in the real world do a little reading about economics or better yet do something productive beyond moving your mouth about things you know nothing about.

]]> By: Impact Of Cap And Trade On Real Estate http://www.manausa.com/cap-and-trade-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-33404 Impact Of Cap And Trade On Real Estate Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:54:29 +0000 http://www.manausa.com/?p=7039#comment-33404 [...] [see why the Cap and Trade Bill will make housing more expensive] [...] [...] [see why the Cap and Trade Bill will make housing more expensive] [...]

]]> By: Bill http://www.manausa.com/cap-and-trade-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-31166 Bill Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:05:28 +0000 http://www.manausa.com/?p=7039#comment-31166 Capitalism is the FRIEND of freedom, free enterprise, and innovation. It has created more prosperity for more people than any other system the world has known. Statist's are the ENEMY of freedom, prosperity, and efficient markets. Statists lust for power- which is then concentrated among a small group of elitists who are convinced that they have the ONLY answer to any problem that might come up. It's a "top down" system... with a few at the top Chavez and Castro find the Statist plan quite attractive for themselves and their small circle of "friends". As we allow a government to build ever increasing and conflicting "rules" ( some which are good and common sense .. and more which are conflicting and excessive), we run into radical ideas that cost real people their standard of living. No one is against a clean environment- There are good stewards of the earth among our citizens.. who happen to also be captains of industry. This "cap and trade" fraud is simply an energy tax- and will do nothing to affect "global warming".. but it will create massive transfers of income and wealth from free markets (that actually create terrific products and services) .. to 3rd world countries.. and we all can agree how well that works. Africa has received untold Billions.. and just exactly what has that done for the average person on the continent. The recent revelations of consipiracy to alter data in order to get to the desired "outcome" by leading "climate" scientists who suck off the teat of the public trough shows just how far Statist thinking will go to steal from the public. They almost got away with it. Cap and Trade is a scheme dependent on fraud to exist- Let free enterprise solve energy problems.. not some Elitist group that lusts for power and uses deception and fraud to support it's abusive aims. Capitalism is the FRIEND of freedom, free enterprise, and innovation. It has created more prosperity for more people than any other system the world has known.

Statist’s are the ENEMY of freedom, prosperity, and efficient markets. Statists lust for power- which is then concentrated among a small group of elitists who are convinced that they have the ONLY answer to any problem that might come up. It’s a “top down” system… with a few at the top Chavez and Castro find the Statist plan quite attractive for themselves and their small circle of “friends”.

As we allow a government to build ever increasing and conflicting “rules” ( some which are good and common sense .. and more which are conflicting and excessive), we run into radical ideas that cost real people their standard of living. No one is against a clean environment- There are good stewards of the earth among our citizens.. who happen to also be captains of industry.

This “cap and trade” fraud is simply an energy tax- and will do nothing to affect “global warming”.. but it will create massive transfers of income and wealth from free markets (that actually create terrific products and services) .. to 3rd world countries.. and we all can agree how well that works. Africa has received untold Billions.. and just exactly what has that done for the average person on the continent.

The recent revelations of consipiracy to alter data in order to get to the desired “outcome” by leading “climate” scientists who suck off the teat of the public trough shows just how far Statist thinking will go to steal from the public. They almost got away with it. Cap and Trade is a scheme dependent on fraud to exist-

Let free enterprise solve energy problems.. not some Elitist group that lusts for power and uses deception and fraud to support it’s abusive aims.

]]> By: Bill http://www.manausa.com/cap-and-trade-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-30724 Bill Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:15:14 +0000 http://www.manausa.com/?p=7039#comment-30724 This seems to me more a referendum on politics then on real estate. Since when is a safe, energy-efficient home a detriment for agents? Savings, as mentioned before, over the life of the home may well outweigh initial cost. This seems to me more a referendum on politics then on real estate. Since when is a safe, energy-efficient home a detriment for agents? Savings, as mentioned before, over the life of the home may well outweigh initial cost.

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